Windshield Frame Rubber for '34-'35

Essex33
Essex33 Member
in HUDSON
Where is the best place to buy windshield frame rubber for my flip out '34-35 windshield? Also, does the rubber mount to the windshield frame or the car body? Thought it mounted to the windshield frame, but saw a description that has me questioning that. Thanks much.

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  • Old Fogey UK
    Old Fogey UK Expert Adviser
    K-Gap did a windshield rubber and a rubber that went on the car body against the windshield.
    Their successors probably still do.
     I had a new windshield frame made here in England and it uses just a frame rubber without any draughts, so you'll probably get away with just a frame rubber if you can find one in the US.

  • 35 Terraplane
    35 Terraplane Senior Contributor
    Wildricks has the gasket you need
  • philster
    philster Expert Adviser
    Also available from ebay seller under the heading - 1934 - 1939 Some Mopar Hudson IHC Swing Crank Out Windshield Seal By The Foot
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/351500954925?hash=item51d716ed2d:g:GGwAAOSwLVZV5zhb

  • Old Fogey UK
    Old Fogey UK Expert Adviser
    philster said:
    Also available from ebay seller under the heading - 1934 - 1939 Some Mopar Hudson IHC Swing Crank Out Windshield Seal By The Foot
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/351500954925?hash=item51d716ed2d:g:GGwAAOSwLVZV5zhb

    That looks a lot like my rubber seal.
  • Essex33
    Essex33 Member
    Thanks all.  Very helpful.  

  • dholck
    dholck Expert Adviser
    I'm not in front of the car, but in my mind's eye I see a wide-ish rubber flange attached to the windshield frame (I have the K-Gap rubber).  I comment here just to remind folks that there is also a source for new windshield frames; NC Industries in PA  https://windshieldframes.com/
    They made one for my 34T coupe.  Looks like they have the pattern listed under Hudson as "1934 Terraplane sedan." 

  • Old Fogey UK
    Old Fogey UK Expert Adviser
    I saw those NC frames after I'd had mine hand-made here in England out of brass channel that I had chromed.
     I still dare not tell my wife how much it cost but at least rust won't be a problem in years to come !
  • ESSX28-1
    ESSX28-1 Senior Contributor

    Old Fogey UK said:
    I saw those NC frames after I'd had mine hand-made here in England out of brass channel that I had chromed.
     I still dare not tell my wife how much it cost but at least rust won't be a problem in years to come !
    You need one of those T-shirts that say "When I die, I hope my wife doesn't sell my spare car parts for what I told her they cost"

  • Old Fogey UK
    Old Fogey UK Expert Adviser
    ESSX28-1 said:

    Old Fogey UK said:
    I saw those NC frames after I'd had mine hand-made here in England out of brass channel that I had chromed.
     I still dare not tell my wife how much it cost but at least rust won't be a problem in years to come !
    You need one of those T-shirts that say "When I die, I hope my wife doesn't sell my spare car parts for what I told her they cost"

    Where do I get one ?  :D
  • Essex33
    Essex33 Member
    35 Terraplane, I got the glass installed and have the Wildrick rubber ready to install.  What adhesive did you use around the frame perimeter to hold the rubber in place? Thanks

  • 35 Terraplane
    35 Terraplane Senior Contributor
    No adhesive is needed.  You have to work the small bulb end of the rubber into the groove on the frame.  It's a tedious task.  Start at the bottom center of the frame and work your way around.  I sprayed the rubber with a little silicone lube, just 3-4 inches at a time, and waited a few minutes.  It made it easier to get the rubber bulbs into the groove.  Don't use to much silicone or the rubber will keep popping out of the groove.  I made two blocks out of 2x4 with a double depth groove cut in them to hold the frame while installing the rubber.  One groove was the depth of the frame and as wide as the frame.  The second groove was on one side of the upper groove that was deep enough for the already installed rubber to extend down into and not be crushed.  I used a plastic putty knife to push the small side of the rubber into the frame groove/channel.  the bigger side would push in by hand.
    This is toward the inner part of the frame.

    As viewed from the outside of the frame.
    I glued the butt ends of the rubber with super glue.
    I put my 2x4 blocks on the floor when working on the shorter normally vertical side of the frame.  It took me a few days to finish as my hands could only take it for a while before I needed a break.  It take a bit of force to get the small side of the bulb into the frame groove/channel.  I found that taking small bites at a time with half the plastic knife blade on the portion already installed and the other half of the blade on the portion I was working into the groove/channel worked best.  To big a bite and I couldn't get the whole length of the blade into the groove.  I got a plastic putty with a very thin blade.  I had another with a thicker blade that would not work.  Take your time and work slowly.  
  • 35 Terraplane
    35 Terraplane Senior Contributor
    PS. make sure the groove/channel in the frame is nice and clean.  I took small brass and stainless steel brushes to gently clean the groove. 
  • Essex33
    Essex33 Member
    Thanks Tom.  I know you posted this helpful information for me on the FB site, but I could not locate last night when I went to retrieve.  I very much appreciate the step by step and photos.  

  • Guardian1fox2
    Guardian1fox2 Member
    Is the gasket for the body glued in? I have the frame seal, but the body seal behind it is almost non-existent just pieces remain so I don’t know what it’s supposed to look like. 
  • Old Fogey UK
    Old Fogey UK Expert Adviser
    I didn't know where to attach the inner seal, so I didn't use one.
    You can't see it anyway.
    No leaks or draughts, even in our wonderfully awfully British weather !
  • 35 Terraplane
    35 Terraplane Senior Contributor
    Not sure about other years but on my 35 T I think the only seal for the windshield frame is the seal embedded in the frame itself as in the pics above.  It seals against the embossed relief in the outer body.  The attached pics shows what I think are remnant's of the original seal embedded in the frame that adhered to the body from sitting for years.  Haven't clean it as I don't want to damage the original paint.  This pic is as viewed from the passenger side.  There is a rubber drain hose slipped over a nipple protruding down from the corner inside the car.  I replaced the hose as the original was kinda crusty.  
  • Old Fogey UK
    Old Fogey UK Expert Adviser
    It's a good idea to poke some stiff wire down those holes to clear out rust and dirt.
  • 35 Terraplane
    35 Terraplane Senior Contributor
    David, did just that.  Bought a set of cheap wire brushes at Harbor Freight that worked the treat.   
  • Essex33
    Essex33 Member
    Thanks for all the excellent info. 

  • Old Fogey UK
    Old Fogey UK Expert Adviser
    35 Terraplane said:
    Not sure about other years but on my 35 T I think the only seal for the windshield frame is the seal embedded in the frame itself as in the pics above.  It seals against the embossed relief in the outer body.  The attached pics shows what I think are remnant's of the original seal embedded in the frame that adhered to the body from sitting for years.  Haven't clean it as I don't want to damage the original paint.  This pic is as viewed from the passenger side.  There is a rubber drain hose slipped over a nipple protruding down from the corner inside the car.  I replaced the hose as the original was kinda crusty.  

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    Interestingly, in your photo, your interior windshield metal trim only appears to run along the top of the dash. Mine (in a 1934 car) goes right around the windshield aperture in one piece with only a break for the windshield crank handle (sorry the pics are sideways).

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