How to Attach Hood?

It’s time I get the hood on my 37 coupe, because.... well she just doesn’t look right without it. 

Thus far I have a Mack Truck center chrome strip which holds both top halves of the hood together.  I was told this was a very close match & would work.  I have also have removed the rusted steel rods that hold the side panels together with the top pieces and have stainless steel rods to replace them. 

What I’m needing is good information on what to do with the inside area of the hood (pieces) which the steel rod goes through.  How do I clean it?  What do I use to clean it?  Once clean then what?  Does one paint it?  Did the factory leave it bare steel?  Does one use some kind of an insert (plastic) between the hood & the rod. 

At the ends of the hood center pieces it looks as though it should attach to the top of the firewall however I’m missing the piece which goes on top of the grill & have no idea what it even looks like.

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  • BigSkyBigSky Posts: 755Senior Contributor



  • Old Fogey UKOld Fogey UK Posts: 505Expert Adviser
    Check that the end profile of the Mack hinge strip matches that of your original.
     I was told a Mack one would work for my 34. I didn't check the two profiles. They weren't the same and I chewed up the paint as I tried to slide the Mack along the hood halves - and yes, I did lubricate it with silicon grease beforehand.
    The chrome wasn't too bad on the original, so that's what's on the car now.
  • bob wardbob ward Posts: 1,207Senior Contributor
    edited December 2020
    Thus far I have a Mack Truck center chrome strip which holds both top halves of the hood together.  I was told this was a very close match & would work.  I've not used a Mack truck hinge but I have been told that profile needs to be altered slightly and that clever people have made simple tools to do that. I don't know any of the details.

    I have also have removed the rusted steel rods that hold the side panels together with the top pieces and have stainless steel rods to replace them. Tick.

    What I’m needing is good information on what to do with the inside area of the hood (pieces) which the steel rod goes through.  How do I clean it?  What do I use to clean it?  This depends very much on where you are up to with finishing the rest of the hood, lots of variables there.

    Once clean then what?  Does one paint it?  I'd be using a spray can of primer and putting a squirt down each tube, mask the rest of the hood as required.

    Did the factory leave it bare steel?  Don't know. 

    Does one use some kind of an insert (plastic) between the hood & the rod. The stainless rod will work fine by itself.

    At the ends of the hood center pieces it looks as though it should attach to the top of the firewall however I’m missing the piece which goes on top of the grill & have no idea what it even looks like. The front hood end will be similar but not necessarily the same as the rear end. Each end fitting should also have an under fitting that keeps the centre strip pushed up against the top fitting.
  • Jon BJon B Posts: 7,170Administrator
    As to mounting the "hinge" (the long stainless steel / chromed steel strip that runs from the grille shell back to the cowl):

    There are two "bonnet hinge clamp bolts", one at the front, and one at the back.  In the lower of your two photos, is (I believe) the rear mounting bracket, in front of the air vent.  You can see the hole for the clamp bolt in the top.  Likewise, there is a similar bracket and hole at the front. 

    The bolt itself has a 1/4"-20 (originally 1/4"-28) thread.  The head is a formed piece of steel, curved so that it slides into the hinge (which you will already have fastened to the hood halves.  After the clamp bolt has been slid into the front and rear ends of the hinge (so that the threaded part penetrates only maybe 1/2" to 3/4", the entire hood with its hinge, is lowered down so that the hinge sits on the two brackets and the threaded portion of the fore and aft clamp bolts fit through the holes in the brackets.  Then, a regular hex nut and washer is attached and tightened down from under each bracket.  (Shims can be added above the brackets if necessary to raise the height of the hinge so it mates with the trim on the cowl vent, or on the grille shell.

    It's a tricky operation mounting the hood.  It takes three people, or one very skilled 1937 owner.

    I'm sorry I cannot offer you a view of the lamp bolt head.  If you hear of someone parting out a '37, certainly you should offer to buy two.  Or, take the hinge (the long chrome strip) to an accomplished metal worker and ask him to make a couple of them.
  • Jon BJon B Posts: 7,170Administrator
    edited December 2020
    As to the hinge itself: I too had heard stories, over the years, that a Mack truck hinge was interchangeable.  Then, in recent years, I heard it was not!  So I sniffed around on the internet and found some "possibilities".  No way to know if they work for you, aside of 1.) asking the store to take a "rubber stamp pad impression" of the ends of each hinge, or 2). taking a chance and buying one.

    Here http://www.earlyfordstore.com/index.php/cPath/172_174?osCsid=fc025615f3be68296d85322d8bb0ec61 is a page from an Early Ford Store catalog, with two or three hood hinges.  

    Here's another possibility (or maybe it's one of those in the Early Ford catalog):  
    https://www.speedwaymotors.com/United-Pacific-B20353-Center-Hood-Hinge-Strip-48-Inch-1932-Ford,278462.htmlhttp://


    More possibilities, though some may be duplicates of those I've already shown

    https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Search?query=B20351

    https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Search?query=B20352

    https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Search?query=B20353


    Here's one for 1930's MoPars:  http://www.srpmstreetrods.com/srpm/mopar-hood-hinge-center-strip-ff8081812db6a293012dbe0e3cd504d5-p.html
  • Old Fogey UKOld Fogey UK Posts: 505Expert Adviser
    Bob,
    My car seems to be missing something that goes under the front hinge mounting plate to stop the hood sides sliding forward on the hinge strip and fouling on the cowling - my Citroen Traction Avant had a little metal stop that did that.
    Did the 1934/5 Hudsons have something similar ? Do you know what it looks like, please ?
  • bent metalbent metal Posts: 1,587Senior Contributor
    I have pics of 1936 hood hinge parts.  Don't know if it's the same as '37.  Can you 1937 guys say if these look right?
  • jjbubaboyjjbubaboy Posts: 848Senior Contributor
    I dont know if 37 is the same or not, but DANG those sure are purdy!!
    (As always!)
  • Old Fogey UKOld Fogey UK Posts: 505Expert Adviser
    Bent Metal,
    Please could you tell me the dimensions of the front T-shaped part ?
     I'm in England and would like to try making my own.
    Thanks.
  • Jon BJon B Posts: 7,170Administrator
    Bentmetal, did you have to locate or fabricate the hood hinge (long chromed strip) for the 1936 you made these retainers for?  If you did, and had some excess material, maybe you could cut off a short length and send it to BigSky so he can see if it would work for his '37's hood?  (I'm sure he'd pay postage!)  Then we'd know for sure whether the '36 and '37 hinge strips are the same in cross-section.  (Just a suggestion.)
  • JACK356JACK356 Posts: 89Member
    I'll try to take pictures of you tomorrow of my original survivor.
  • Old Fogey UKOld Fogey UK Posts: 505Expert Adviser
    JACK356 said:
    I'll try to take pictures of you tomorrow of my original survivor.
    Please can you tell me the dimensions/measurements of the T shape part ?
  • JACK356JACK356 Posts: 89Member
    TapeI just got home from work. I took pictures; the vehicle is not my home












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    Thickness   1.5 MM

    BELOW THE PIECE   2MM
  • Old Fogey UKOld Fogey UK Posts: 505Expert Adviser
    Jacky - merci beaucoup !  :)
  • JACK356JACK356 Posts: 89Member
    If need be I'm here.
    For my part; I'm looking for this piece to fix the second spare wheel. It's the only piece I miss


  • Old Fogey UKOld Fogey UK Posts: 505Expert Adviser
    JACK356 said:
    If need be I'm here.
    For my part; I'm looking for this piece to fix the second spare wheel. It's the only piece I miss


    Plus rare, comme les dents d'une poule !
  • JACK356JACK356 Posts: 89Member

  • Old Fogey UKOld Fogey UK Posts: 505Expert Adviser
     :D  :D :D
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  • JACK356JACK356 Posts: 89Member
    I have the original with the keys
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