Routine 70 year maintenance, 1929 Essex

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  • rusty_apacherusty_apache Posts: 214Member
    edited January 2021
    Okay this has nothing to do with “know how” other than how to spend money! 

    Many thanks to Geoff for the fine reproduction!
    It’s definitely too shiny up close but when you back off it’s not so overwhelming! Once I clean and polish the car I think it will blend in nicely. 
     I’m definitely not turning my back on it without replacing it with the original! 

    This motivates me to get the cooling system cleaned out. My progress has been derailed by the Vulture “couple” that uses my barn for hatching chicks. I’m afraid I’m going to have to complete the walls to keep them out. 



  • bent metalbent metal Posts: 1,705Senior Contributor
    Love it!!!
  • 35 Terraplane35 Terraplane Posts: 401Senior Contributor
    I second that
  • HansHans Posts: 239Senior Contributor
    Kevin, it sure looks good

  • rusty_apacherusty_apache Posts: 214Member
    Thanks guys!
  • rusty_apacherusty_apache Posts: 214Member
    edited February 2021


    Yesterday the steering wheel hub arrived Saturday in gleaming nickel plate!
    Thanks to all of your help she’s no longer a menace to society and is no longer a danger to itself and others! The levers are installed in their correct locations and the circlips that came with it were a struggle so I made my own out of 1/16” stainless TIG rod. I’m so pleased that it’s one step closer to passing the state inspection for Texas citizenship! 















  • 35 Terraplane35 Terraplane Posts: 401Senior Contributor
    Very nice
  • rusty_apacherusty_apache Posts: 214Member
    Thanks for making it possible Tom!
  • strangeplantstrangeplant Posts: 105Member
    Hi, Lots of questions about my parts that I didn't even know were missing. In a photo in your Sept 2020 post, there is a vertical array of door parts, and you say the top one is a friction band for the throttle. I haven't seen that. Do I need that piece? Where does that go, and why is it there? 

    /Tom (Always missing something I don't know about.)
  • rusty_apacherusty_apache Posts: 214Member


    The pocket knife indicates the friction band. Still in it’s previously bent, condition. 
    Directly below the blade is the throttle lever stop washer. ....I believe it’s called. I am uncertain I have it installed correctly but it’s in there and it limits the range of motion so I believe I guessed correctly. 




    Friction band, released from it’s cocoon of coagulated grease, but yet to be straightened. 
    Without it, the throttle lever, the carburetor return spring would snap back to the closed position like the “foot feed” does. 

    Here it is, in it’s natural habitat without the stop washer in place. 
    Do you have the levers and horn button? They are like hens teeth. 




  • rusty_apacherusty_apache Posts: 214Member


    Friction plate diagram...

    My car came with the lower throttle arm in place and the bits in boxes. I had many of the parts I needed and wasn’t sharp enough to notice without being spoon fed information from various gentlemen in the club. That is in spite of the fact that Mr. King Meticulously packaged and labeled everything for the adoption! 
    In my defense, the little coupe gained several GM parts in it’s collection of loose bits through the years which added to the confusion a little. 




    Cut two, mirror image. The “oval” is supposed to be a 2-1/8” circle if I am not mistaken. 

    With a leather needle, any old cast iron sewing machine will handle the light leather. The originals were made of roof material. I used the circa 1911 Davis Vertical Feed treadle in a nice compact parlor cabinet. 


     
    My car has a few more zirks than this diagram shows but you get the idea. 
    Happy to provide any reference photos and what (little) I have learned so far! 



  • GeoffGeoff Posts: 4,523Senior Contributor
    That is an Essex layout, not a Hudson, which is different for the throttle and advance/retard friction bands. 
    If you're stuck in a hole, stop digging.
  • rusty_apacherusty_apache Posts: 214Member
    Geoff said:
    That is an Essex layout, not a Hudson, which is different for the throttle and advance/retard friction bands. 
    Thank you kindly for your wisdom Geoff! Sometimes the most obvious things just completely elude me!

  • rusty_apacherusty_apache Posts: 214Member

    1)Passenger side trim, notch at dash. 



    2) another view showing bottom edge of the notch. 
    3) passenger side




    4)overall 
    5)bottom
    6) top

    I have heard that the doors are the same between Hudson and Essex but I don’t know about the cowl panel retainer. 

  • rusty_apacherusty_apache Posts: 214Member



    Front bumpers are different between Hudson and Essex, maybe the mounts are the same?





    Side view  


    Spare carrier



    Three lower brackets 








  • rusty_apacherusty_apache Posts: 214Member

    We survived the polar vortex almost embarrassingly well! My only mistake was not having enough firewood cut! Not matter, the propane tank is full. Despite living in the country I only needed to rely on kerosene lamps for a few hours before dawn one morning. 

    I had an enlightening conversation with Hans yesterday. So with that motivation, after a long break from the 70 year maintenance schedule, I bit the bullet and removed the water manifold to find that the mischievous little mouse had made his nest in the first down tube above the #1 cylinder. Thankfully there was no nesting material below deck but a small amount made it into the water jacket inside the head itself but it hadn’t spread past #2 cylinder. I managed to pull it all out with hemostats, a bailing wire hook and a good blast from my cheapo pressure washer that survived my negligence when it froze. Then I fired up the bore scope camera and was able to locate a chunk of cast iron and remove it. 

    As per Han’s suggestion, I am going to put a temporary strainer in the radiator hose in order to prevent any small fragments from becoming lodged in the radiator again. 


    Before 






    After 


    Note the water beaded up on the bare metal of the horn. I treated it with waxoyl six months ago and it’s still protecting the surface!

    Time to get out the gasket material and make some gaskets!
  • rusty_apacherusty_apache Posts: 214Member

    I started out using paper gasket material but after getting a little wet while peening it, it started to separate. Since I still may have to remove this manifold again I decided to go with 1/16” cork. 

     




    I love having the antique punches to make nice holes. (An Emily Morgan dollar is probably the best size for the center hole. Too bad all I had was a Kennedy half dollar and some quarters....)

    I used Dad’s tiny hammer to peen the gasket. It’s small enough that with light tapping there’s little chance of snapping an ear off. I wouldn’t DARE risk it on the Marvel carburetor, however!

     He carried it in a green canvas bag with his basic tool kit. He took it all over the world servicing industrial centrifugal compressors. Whenever he showed up at at a 95 degree highrise office building, he was treated like royalty, especially when it was a quick, easy fix. 


    Anyway back to the subject at hand...
    Its a little easier to cut and punch out the holes prior to cutting the outer perimeter. 








    the Karr is going to be great for flash drying bare metal parts before rust can even get it’s shoes on!
     The manifold needs to be cleaned more thoroughly but I removed it from the vinegar bath to check the fit of the gaskets. 
  • HansHans Posts: 239Senior Contributor
    Your stove is really something !!!!
  • GeoffGeoff Posts: 4,523Senior Contributor
    Reminds me of the story of the newbie skydiver, jumps out of the plane, and after free falling for a while can't find the ripcord.   Hurtling downward at great speed, he sees someone hurtling upwards, so calls out "Hey, do you know anything about parachutes?", and the other guy replies "No, do you know anything about gas stoves?"
    If you're stuck in a hole, stop digging.
  • rusty_apacherusty_apache Posts: 214Member
    edited March 2021
    Hans said:
    Your stove is really something !!!!
    Thanks Hans, here’s the waffle iron in action!

    So how ‘bout that cylinder block? In your experience doesn’t it look fairly clean already in the first photograph before pressure washing? 
    I used a loose sawzall blade to clean the gap between the cylinders. 


  • rusty_apacherusty_apache Posts: 214Member
    Geoff said:
    Reminds me of the story of the newbie skydiver, jumps out of the plane, and after free falling for a while can't find the ripcord.   Hurtling downward at great speed, he sees someone hurtling upwards, so calls out "Hey, do you know anything about parachutes?", and the other guy replies "No, do you know anything about gas stoves?"
    Natural gas is extremely safe, until it builds up!
    heheh!
  • bent metalbent metal Posts: 1,705Senior Contributor
    Your leather/hole punches will stay sharp longer and make a nicer hole if you punch into the end grain of the wood rather than the face.
  • rusty_apacherusty_apache Posts: 214Member
    Your leather/hole punches will stay sharp longer and make a nicer hole if you punch into the end grain of the wood rather than the face.
    Thanks for the tip! And here I thought I was gdoing good using the harder surface of the knot!
  • rusty_apacherusty_apache Posts: 214Member
    Why I dislike Kreem and other fuel tank sealers....



    I was beginning to question the dependability of the current fuel feed canister until I discovered this very effective plug formed by dislodged liner. I know that the canister is pulling a heck of a vacuum because it was FIRMLY lodged in the fuel line. Now I know why it was going empty more and more frequently. 



    Here’s a view of the newly acquired rumble seat cushion. I am looking for a reputable vintage automobile upholsterer to replicate them in fresh leather. There are no exposed seams so I may do it myself but would prefer to have a professional do it. 

  • ESSX28-1ESSX28-1 Posts: 1,394Senior Contributor
    Can you not restore the existing leather with a reputable leather restoring cream? It looks good enough unless there are unseen tears. That's what we did with my rumble seat cushion.
    Dave Y New Zealand
  • rusty_apacherusty_apache Posts: 214Member
    Thanks for the great suggestion, I’m all about “original original “and glad you were able to preserve yours! 

    Unfortunately it’s more damaged than it looks from that angle. I was actually thinking about treating it and making clear vinyl covers to hold it together. 
    For now I put the word out in the South Texas chapter for an upholsterer and will concentrate on mechanical issues for the time being. 
     
    As you probably know it takes acts of contortion to get into and out of it without placing your foot on it. That’s the only reason I am considering recovering it. Inevitably someone is going to step in it! 
    It’s hard to find a good balance between functionality and conservation. 

    I have reproduction saddles for my Victorian bicycles and save the originals for display. I’ve never tested the theory but apparently the weak link with them is the seams split fairly quickly when ridden. They have a rougher life however. 
  • rusty_apacherusty_apache Posts: 214Member
    edited March 2021

    So now that the Kreem plug is out of the fuel line she’s currently got a reliable supply of fuel I decided to once again turn my attention to the flooding issue. 
    I broke a chunk off of the big screwdriver I was using to attempt to coax out the float valve seat! I decided that I would prefer to push my luck with the original VERY WORN needle (and probably seat).







    I put some electronic solder around the groove. Then filed it down somewhat with a mill file, then the rest of the way with a whetstone and had great results the full 360 degree rotation of the needle ( it used to leak in certain positions as it would rotate during idle) with the float cover removed. I let it run for some time and it worked perfectly until I replaced the cover. 

    (The new replacement needle and seat with the real one in the foreground after the whetstone treatment.)



    Then I noticed this.....

    the shaft was slightly bent and so was the pointer. 
    This was causing the float to catch on the lower brass washer, preventing the needle from properly seating. 
    A few gentle well placed taps with the tiny ball peen hammer correct the issue and so far flooding is BANISHED! 

    Thanks to photographic documentation from Mr. Lynch in Canada I discovered the location for the accelerator spring retainer and put it in it’s proper place for the first time in many years I’m sure!



    Then I drove it around the property and up to the cul de sac. I did not overheat so I think that the head gasket is not leaking and after I replace the radiator it should cool consistently! First I am going to check the strainers I put in the radiator hoses for more debris and add a mild solution of oxalic acid for a few days. Before changing the radiator. 
    Also the split rivets for the hood welting arrived so those are back in place, preventing rattles!




    Baby steps!

  • 54coupe54coupe Posts: 981Member
    Great progress
  • Jon BJon B Posts: 7,438Administrator
    Is someone making repro floor mats for the 29's?  If so, I'd like to add to my Hudson Repro Parts webpage.
  • 54coupe54coupe Posts: 981Member
    Not Essex.
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