Sacramento California outlaws working on your own car in your driveway or garage. Wow.

supersixsupersix Posts: 60Member
That’s unbelievable to me. What’s next ? I wonder how all the local auto parts stores feel about this law.

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  • squirrelsquirrel Posts: 168Member
    The law probably helps the local repair shops, and the repair shops are the parts stores' largest customers, so ????

    More info:



  • RL ChiltonRL Chilton Posts: 5,131Administrator, Moderator
    Yes, but it can't possibly help them.  
  • GlowplugGlowplug Posts: 1,784Expert Adviser
    Look west to those who want to run your life!  Car maintenance is not the only things they want to control!
  • railknightrailknight Posts: 319Expert Adviser
    I'd suggest just closing the garage door, but if your car's a tight squeeze in the garage or if it's really hot out, these things can be an issue. 
  • cheyenne7271cheyenne7271 Posts: 51Member
    My parents just moved an hour from there, they want me to move there. No thanks, beautiful state but not for a car guy. That law will soon carry over to other cities soon I’m sure. Isn’t this supposed to be a free country? That’s what I’ve been led to believe anyway. 
  • supersixsupersix Posts: 60Member
    Yep it’s a mess here, I’m very close to Sacramento county and just built a 50’ x 60’ shop in the backyard for all my stuff. I hope it doesn’t come here next. But Freedoms are disappearing here.
  • ken1962ken1962 Posts: 238Member
    If you actually read the guidelines there is nothing stopping you from doing minor work (brake work, lube jobs, engine tuneups, electrical stuff on your car however you cannot have inoperable cars resting in the driveway or outside more than 24 hours. You cannot do panel beating, spray painting or major jobs like machine lathing car engine parts etc etc using equipment not usual for a home garage... Think industrial equipment.  Nothing worse than having a mechanic living in a residential street working on a collection of cars arriving all hours doing jobs suited for commercial areas only. Cheers ken 
  • squirrelsquirrel Posts: 168Member
    I think the intent of the law is to stop that mechanic working on cars for money in a residential area, but the unintended consequence is screwing over the hobbyist.

    Writing laws that do only what is intended, is not easy.

    I personally think everyone should have a lathe and a mill and several welders, and all kinds of neat equipment at their home. Otherwise, you'd have to spend all your time sitting on the couch, watching TV commercials, so you'll know what products to buy this week.


  • railknightrailknight Posts: 319Expert Adviser
    I read the guidelines too and I agree with Ken that you can do minor work on your car.  These are simply zoning laws that help protect homeowners property values.  Tacky, beat up cars lying dormant all the time in your next door neighbor's driveway or backyard could affect the value of your city or suburban home.  In other words, who wants to buy your home if they have to live next door to the "junk yard slob".   
  • squirrelsquirrel Posts: 168Member
    The problem is that the law covers the whole county...and there are neighborhoods where doing this kind of work at home, is appropriate. I live on 4 acres, and many of my neighbors do stuff like I do, and it's not a problem. I have friends who live in swanky neighborhoods with HOAs and lots of regulations, and I can sure see whey they would not want me as a neighbor. Blanket laws like this are not the best way to deal with whatever problem they are trying to fix.

  • railknightrailknight Posts: 319Expert Adviser
    edited August 7
    I agree squirrel, if you're out in the "boon docks" you should be granted a waiver regarding outdoor car repair restrictions.   Perhaps the city of Sacramento, CA anticipates the day when the city will fill in the whole county....it is to be hoped not the whole country!
  • BigSkyBigSky Posts: 394Senior Contributor
    edited August 7
    Just another example of why living in California is a bad idea if you valve your freedoms, rights, guns & especially old cars.  

    Around 8 Years ago after moving to Montana, I ran across a guy & we got to talking.  Pretty soon he asked me where I was from and after telling him he said, “oh, you live in a “free state”.  Puzzled I asked him to explain, and he was referencing personal freedoms and gun owners rights.  I didn’t think much about it as I wasn’t a big hunter or gun owner.  However, over the last 4 years I’ve become increasingly more aware of a variety of areas which infringe on one’s rights way too much. 

    As luck would have it, my youngest daughter became involved in Olympic Rifle shooting & is currently a senior in high school, a top 5 athlete in the country & currently being recruited by the top colleges with NCAA rifle teams, as well as West Point & the Naval Academy’s.  Her own school just this past week sent out paperwork for parents to sign & in it they want all parents to agree to keep all guns owned out of our kids hands at all times. Well first off, I addressed this form with them last year & the year before but they didn’t change it as they said they would.  Furthermore, it’s not their place to dictate how things will be done in my house.  This is just another example of over-reach. 

    Since our hobby is primarily a 50+++ crowd I’ll give one that shocked me in the last year as well & that is Guardianship & Conservatorship of the elderly.   My father’s in Minnesota & a year ago a sibling of mine filed to have guardianship & conservatorship put in place over him, but there was no reason to do this other than he wanted to continue to drive at 80 & my sister didn’t want him to.  He hadn’t had any tickets or accidents in over 25 years but it went to court.  Even thought 2 neuropsych evaluations found he didn’t need either restrictions placed over him, the judge still put them in place.  He has lost every right he has & it’s just another example of people all to easily loosing their rights & freedoms.  

  • supersixsupersix Posts: 60Member
    Big sky , That’s why I posted it. Regardless of how others chose to rationalize what the big Liberal thumb has pushed down on us now it is still more freedom taken away. It’s incrimentalism , little by little. The fact is it’s your property , it’s targeted at you and your freedom to do things on your own property. Some may say oh I don’t want a mechanic working on his car a few houses away oh no. How about the guy who builds cabinets in his garage , or a guy or lady that does upholstery? . They just keep taking away freedoms , and adding taxes. Here in Ca they ban you from using your fireplace on the coldest days and nights. They have a squad of people that drive around looking for chimney smoke so they can write you a 300.00 ticket and they advertise on T.V. And radio asking neighbors to turn you in. I’m drifting away from the original,post but this law is B.S. there are other codes that cover a car in your driveway for 24 hrs , or blight etc . It’s very frustrating to live here if you believe in freedom rather than just giving in and becoming one of thier Lemmings. Hopefully this law will be overturned here in Cal the land of the Hot Rod.
  • supersixsupersix Posts: 60Member
    oh I forgot to add , here in California they make an average of 1,000 laws a year. 
  • 40indianssgmailcom40indianssgmailcom Posts: 119Senior Contributor
    I think others addressed the issue correctly.  It is not about doing upholstery in your garage or building cabinets there.  It is about what is done over an extended period of time in your driveway where it could impact the live ability or value of the neighboring properties.  If you want to sell your property and your neighbor has an eyesore which lessens the likelihood of it being purchased, how would you feel about that
  • supersixsupersix Posts: 60Member
    I disagree . 
  • tombiatombia Posts: 141Member
    I think others addressed the issue correctly.  It is not about doing upholstery in your garage or building cabinets there.  It is about what is done over an extended period of time in your driveway where it could impact the live ability or value of the neighboring properties.  If you want to sell your property and your neighbor has an eyesore which lessens the likelihood of it being purchased, how would you feel about that

    I agree completely, you nailed it.
  • GlowplugGlowplug Posts: 1,784Expert Adviser
    Actually those who live in that state or have lived there know that ...your rights are owned by the majority thought process!  I moved there to take a job I wanted.  Treatment of my wife, children and myself was somehow based on ... a we first you second approach to civil rights.  This was directly attached to the politic of the public.  After an incident that caused injury to my daughter; we learned that “lawyering up” was the norm.  So; we chose to move back to our home in another state.  The company in California kept me as a consulting engineer for more than 10 years.  The event that injured my daughter was settled with those who were responsible for her care being found guilty of failure to protect her.  Sadly this has continued to grow!
  • supersixsupersix Posts: 60Member
    Yeah , they responders agreeing with the law just are not getting it. There is no I repeat no problem selling a house here anywhere in this state . Regardless of who or what is down the street , across the street  or on the next street over or the giant row of tents of homeless, and thier trash.There are people here living in sheds in people’s back yards that is the truth. There  are concrete front yards so cars can park on them as there are so many people living in one house. Attached garages have been converted to house several people. The thing is Liberty, Freedom. The Liberal agenda here is to stomp you down , control you. Again , we are talking about private property . There are other codes to enforce a business in a sfr zone or any other thing you don’t like like the Aholes who let thier dogs bark constantly . This is another Freedom taken away. I know this is a car site and frankly I can’t believe there are guys here defending the law. Sad , I’m frankly dumbfounded that any car guy would defend the law . If you are house hunting and you don’t like that the house next door has a Hudson or two in the driveway keep,looking . People here commute very long distances to work and back every day. Hundreds of miles . To take ones ability , ah what’s the use , I’m sorry I even mentioned this .geesus 
  • railknightrailknight Posts: 319Expert Adviser
    edited August 9
    Most of the more Conservative leaning suburbs in the Chicago area have some of the strictest zoning laws protecting property values.  Conversely, some of the more Liberal leaning Chicago suburbs have the fewest zoning laws (or, if there are zoning laws, they're rarely enforced) whereby you can park your semi-tractor in the driveway, position you decaying motor boat on the front lawn or have cars on blocks everywhere on your property (along with the tall grass and weeds that's never mowed).   
  • ken1962ken1962 Posts: 238Member
    Hi supersix, 

    The real situation is that years ago you could infact do what you want on that patch of land you owned with impunity. Indeed pollute that stream running thru your property, make as much noise, smell etc as you want. But as democracy ages so the majority grows, laws, opposite opinion incrotches your freedom. The trouble is that it will never return. Cars will be sold with seat belts, gas will be lead free, etc etc.
    The good old days is opposite to "liberals from the west' or that socialist wanting you to conform to the new norm. You need to acknowledge this is out of your hands and somehow learn to live with this new situation probably. The real problem is we are living in the period of the decline of Western society. We are like the roman Italians living in the final 20 plus years before the collapse of the roman empire just before the rush of warlords, and new empire of China pushes out the old. Everybody is seeking like minded ideas, placing faith with the latest elected emperor, fractioning society all the while into smaller and smaller camps. The winners are already on view. China's President is elected for life, Russia has the Tsar Putin and the USA will maybe follow suit and create a dictator president when both sides reach checkpoint in political chess. Drive your Hudson and enjoy your time. 

    Cheers ken 

  • Jon BJon B Posts: 6,942Administrator
    Guys 'n' gals, it's always good to get an airing of opinions, but at some point we just keep going around in circles, repeating the same arguments over and over.  I doubt we'll get the world's problems solved on this forum (which, after all, is devoted to keeping our great old Hudsons on the road).  I have plenty of pals in the Club who voted differently from me in the last election but I still love 'em all. So, let's agree to disagree, and then move on.  Leave the politics and angry talk to the political websites.  We Hudson folks have more important business to discuss here: Hudsons.
  • tombiatombia Posts: 141Member

    Well said Jon,

    Jon B said:
    Guys 'n' gals, it's always good to get an airing of opinions, but at some point we just keep going around in circles, repeating the same arguments over and over.  I doubt we'll get the world's problems solved on this forum (which, after all, is devoted to keeping our great old Hudsons on the road).  I have plenty of pals in the Club who voted differently from me in the last election but I still love 'em all. So, let's agree to disagree, and then move on.  Leave the politics and angry talk to the political websites.  We Hudson folks have more important business to discuss here: Hudsons.


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