Any source for the Hudson drum pins?

Kdancy

These were swedged into the hub when the brake drums were mounted. They have to be
cut off when changing the drums. Is there a source for replacements?

KTRON

McMasterCarr sells rivets, Im sure you could source them from there, but then its a matter of installing them. Your corner mechanics shop/welding shop may not be setup to install rivets correctly,

Chris

Kdancy

If I can find the right size, I bet you can take a washer that is slightly undersized I'd and press fit it down thus having the same affect as swedging it on. ?

KTRON

The only rivets ive seen installed were on steam boilers at the Scranton PA railyards. Rivets are typically induction heated and swagged hot with a pneumatic impact hammer. The cooling process further clamps the two parts together.   You will likely have premature rivet failure if pressed/swagged cold.

Here is a good video on riveting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TPQL_gG1MA

Chris

Kdancy

In this case, it only needs to be installed to be functional to guide the wheel into place when doing a tire change.
All of these drums have been changed in the past and none have any functioning rivets as they were all cut off to get the old drums off the hubs for new drum installation.

Glowplug

Kerry- Interesting alternative

http://www.fiatplus.com/WHEEL-LOCATING-PIN-0004221815U.html

lostmind

Volkswagen used bolts on their wheels and I believe Saab did also.

They don't use locating pins. I had a long stud that I started in one hole

and mounted the wheel , than removed it after starting the bolts in.

Takes about 30 seconds on each wheel.

I don't think the stud is needed for the few times you remove the wheels.

Kdancy

Thanks guys, Ken, I have been thinking about a variation of that one.
I think you may have owned this 53 Hornet sedan at one time? Larry Burke from Kansas, father bought new in 53.

Lostmind, It's a customer's Hudson. I've done the exact thing you describe for personal application.

Glowplug

Could be Kerry, I have owned several.

bob ward

I've turned my own wheel locating pins with a thread on the end that goes into the drum. Conveniently the hole in the brake drum that the dead pin comes out of is the tapping size for a 5/16" thread, can't remember if it is UNF or UNC.
So tap the drum, screw the peg in, peen the 2 or 3 exposed threads inside the drum to stop the peg backing out. Or I guess loctite would work just as well.
I like lost mind's long bolt idea.