54 Super Jet for sale in Georgia CL, now in my driveway

apemanapeman Member
edited February 3 in HUDSON Posts: 10
After owning 3 stepdowns, I am ready to try out a Jet. I found this one in the Florida, a 4dr. black Automatic Trans with red interior. Craigslist http://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/cto/5906068200.html
in Cleveland, Georgia. The owner seems a bit elusive, doesn't want to talk on the phone, but we got to emailing.
He refused my request to have a local mechanic (at my expense) do an inspection, saying that he had done that in the past and they 'messed up' his car. He agreed to do a compression test, and the results sent to me were 64 - 67 psi. 
While doing research on '54 Super Jets, I came across this video, of which he made no mention.    I find it odd he did not direct me towards this video as a potential buyer.
Does anyone have any knowledge of this car's history ? Or tried to buy the car ? When I emailed him that the
Engine Specification for that engine was 100psi, he did not reply, zap, cut me off.
I really like the fact that it is black, and an A/T; I guess it was too good to be true. Thank you.
1954 Hudson Jetliner A/T

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  • allanallan Member
    Posts: 96
    My guess is that he or the car is not legit., as in something to hide.  If you're really interested, head on down with truck and trailer, but be prepared to walk away empty handed.
  • 50C8DAN50C8DAN Senior Contributor
    Posts: 1,359
    Looks like a nice Jet.  I agree with Allan, head on down and see what is there or get someone in the HET to check it out for you.  I believe there are a number of members in that area.  The owner may be one of those.  Sometimes old timers get tired of dealing with too many questions and a face to face would be preferable.
  • apemanapeman Member
    Posts: 10
    I agree, nothing beats a face-to-face, but I'm not in a position to drive to Georgia from California at the moment. What do you guys think about those compression readings ? In the video, he has the car running, and it's not smoking. Thanks for the replies !
    1954 Hudson Jetliner A/T
  • Jon BJon B Administrator
    edited January 5 Posts: 6,555
    Have you looked for a Jet that's closer to home?  Tried Hemmings?  WTN?  Craigslist?  Surely this is not the only Jet currently for sale!

    For instance, here's a two-door in California, on Craigslist, but it may have a chopped top. http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/cto/5912993544.html

    and a nice 4-door in Wisconsin:  https://www.carsforsale.com/vehicle/details/13520938

    and this one in Ohio http://smclassiccars.com/other-makes/118847-1954-hudson-jetliner-jet-liner-202.html

    and this one in Washington state  http://smclassiccars.com/other-makes/139806-1954-hudson-jet-liner.html

    and this one in Oxnard, California http://smclassiccars.com/other-makes/128356-1954-hudson-jet-base-coupe-2-door-33l.html

    and this one in Tennessee http://smclassiccars.com/other-makes/258392-1954-hudson-super-jet-base-coupe-2-door-33l.html
  • 50C8DAN50C8DAN Senior Contributor
    Posts: 1,359
    In my opinion Hudson should have chopped the Jet's top anyway!  This one is a Twin H and 2 door!  too bad he did not post any pics.
  • iceblade10iceblade10 Member
    Posts: 152
    Am I blind?  I don't see the prices on any of those SMclassiccars links...  There's a cute Hudson Metropolitan that I'd love to have for the missus... hehe...
    Stephen Repas
    1954 Hornet Coupe - Originally my Grandfather's
    Southeastern PA
  • apemanapeman Member
    Posts: 10
    That was me that posted on the open forum ! Thank you for the links. interesting, the link you posted for the Ohio Jet, is the same Jet for sale in which the seller (in Georgia) reported the compression readings to be 64, 63, 67, 65, 68 psi. Again, when I mentioned these readings were low, even emailing a scanned image from the shop manual, he stopped replying to my emails. If anyone in the club lives near Cleveland,  Georgia, I would cover your expenses to go look over that car.
    1954 Hudson Jetliner A/T
  • apemanapeman Member
    Posts: 10
    I made some inquiries as to the prices of those without, and asked for photos of the chopped Jet here in California. If he replies, I will post them. Thank you all !

    1954 Hudson Jetliner A/T
  • SuperDaveSuperDave Senior Contributor
    Posts: 3,225
    Sam Ramsey, a member of the HET club and son of a past member, Gene Ramsey lives in Cleveland TN. , Not that far from Cleveland Ga. Why not check with him?  He may know something about the car. HIs number is in the directory.

    Intelligence is like a river. The deeper it is, the less noise it makes.

    49 Super six Brougham

    49 Commodore Eight Convertible

    Melbourne, Florida

  • apemanapeman Member
    edited January 6 Posts: 10
    Thanks Dave I will do that. I google mapped it; it's just over a 2 hour drive. I wonder if it's possible the seller did the comp test wrong. As I recall, it takes 3 or 4 cranks to max out the pressure gage. The cylinder comp climbs up in steps. Could a Superjet engine even run at those mid 60's pressures ? A new engine is spec'd at 100psi min.


    1954 Hudson Jetliner A/T
  • FrankvintagefullflowcomFrankvintagefullflowcom Senior Contributor
    Posts: 892

    Unless it's just co-incidence, the consistently low compression readings across all cylinders implies either a technique issue or a gauge error. There are no differences in specified pressure between models/years, except maybe in the case of the high(er) compression Alumimum head version. In any case it should be at least 100 and within 5 psi of each other. A squirt of oil in one cylinder will indicate if the results are reliable.......a little hard to do since the plug hole is over the exhaust valve, but doable if necessary. I'm assuming that it's not valve leakage if they are all nearly the same.

    F.  

  • Nevada HudsonNevada Hudson Senior Contributor
    Posts: 1,220
    Check with Preston Stevens in Georgia. He knows Jets.
  • apemanapeman Member
    Posts: 10
    Thanks Nevada, I just sent Preston an email. I'm starting to think that even if I have to spend $5k on an engine rebuild, I'd have a nifty Jet with a new engine for $13k invested' not outrageous. The ad is still up http://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/cto/5906068200.html
    1954 Hudson Jetliner A/T
  • apemanapeman Member
    Posts: 10
    Well, after NONE of the other Jets for sale replied to my emails/phone calls, I rekindled communications with the owner of the '54 Black 4 dr in Georgia. We hit it off once we got to talking on the phone. He owns multiple cars, and knows his Hudson history. Finances/shipping are in the works, and I will post pix when it arrives in a couple weeks.
    Again, thank you all for your input. I am quite excited at the thought of driving a Hudson again!
    1954 Hudson Jetliner A/T
  • bull_islanderbull_islander Expert Adviser
    Posts: 467
     congrats on the purchase
    Steve Clarke
    Southeast Virginia
    1954 Hornet convertible

  • apemanapeman Member
    Posts: 10
    I am expecting the Jet in about 4 days !
    Quite excited to tinker on a Hudson again.
    (That's tinker, not tinkle)
    -Andrew
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    1954 Hudson Jetliner A/T
  • Jon BJon B Administrator
    Posts: 6,555
    if you tinkle on a hudson, we will send out the Hudson Police.
  • apemanapeman Member
    Posts: 10
    Any of you Jet guys know how to drain the Hydramatic Trans fluid out of the torque converter? The manual says there is a rotating drain plug, to be removed at the 9 o'clock position and drained at the 6 o'clock position. I can't find the bugger. I was able to drain the main trans pan OK.
    thanks,
    -A
      
    1954 Hudson Jetliner A/T
  • apemanapeman Member
    edited February 5 Posts: 10
    Thank you Jerry B. for the info; Remove the converter dust cover (two pieces, between the trans pan and oil pan). With car in neutral and off, rotate the torque converter until you see a 7/16" plug. Align it so it's at the very bottom. Place oil catcher under it and remove plug with a 7/16 socket. Between the torque converter and transmission drain plug, you get about 10 of the 11 quarts that the A/T system uses. The manual specs 'TYPE A', now obsolete. Use ATF Dexron/Mercon. Before refilling, take the time if you can to drop the Transmission bottom pan and clean it out, as well as the sump screen. Have a new gasket handy !
    1954 Hudson Jetliner A/T
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