Dale Cooper has the new sway bars in stock.

KdancyKdancy Senior Contributor
in Parts & Pieces Posts: 2,075
Dale has the new heavy duty sway bars in stock.

53 Super Wasp Coupe
53 Studebaker Coupe Custom
64 Champ pickup
53 Super Wasp Coupe no drivetrain  very good parameter frame and body.
53 Hornet Coupe od no drivetrain,  haven't decided what to do with this one


Kerry Wellborn, Florida http://s294.beta.photobucket.com/user/studebaker2/library/
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  • RL ChiltonRL Chilton Administrator, Moderator
    Posts: 5,016
    Mine is currently in transit.  Will post findings when it's installed.  
    Russell http://www.52hornetvert.blogspot.com HETrlchilton52@gmail.com (drop the HET)
  • RichardDRichardD Member
    edited March 2016 Posts: 387

    WOW, excited for you guys; been driving with mine for about 8 months now.  AWESOME !!!

     

  • parkermparkerm Expert Adviser
    Posts: 159
    Can theses sway bars be fitted to a 1940?
  • RichardDRichardD Member
    edited March 2016 Posts: 387
    The HD  bars are basically the same as stock stepdown except diameter; they had a stock bar when made and  were patterned after that stock bar. SO, borrow a stock bar and check.
  • RL ChiltonRL Chilton Administrator, Moderator
    Posts: 5,016
    I thought the 40's were narrower than the later Step Downs.  
    Russell http://www.52hornetvert.blogspot.com HETrlchilton52@gmail.com (drop the HET)
  • bull_islanderbull_islander Expert Adviser
    Posts: 479
    I put an order in about two weeks ago.  They're out of stock again, but more are coming.  If you're thinking about it, probably want to call and get on the list for the next wave.  Not sure how many he has coming, but he is expecting them to come a lot quicker than the first batch he had ordered.
    Steve Clarke
    Southeast Virginia
    1954 Hornet convertible

  • KdancyKdancy Senior Contributor
    Posts: 2,075

    Sorry for the delay Kerry, bars are going into production tomorrow.

     From ADDCO

    Thank you,


    53 Super Wasp Coupe
    53 Studebaker Coupe Custom
    64 Champ pickup
    53 Super Wasp Coupe no drivetrain  very good parameter frame and body.
    53 Hornet Coupe od no drivetrain,  haven't decided what to do with this one


    Kerry Wellborn, Florida http://s294.beta.photobucket.com/user/studebaker2/library/
  • RichardDRichardD Member
    edited April 2016 Posts: 387

    To 'whet your appetite': HD bar vs orig anti-swaybar

    1st is HD bar

    2nd is stock bar but with new links and poly bushings {if you don't get an HD bar, for goodness get aftermarket links and poly bushings; but get links that will make the bar arms level with road; my aftermarket ones shown with orig. bar are too long~~}


    HD sway bar 1.JPG
    2592 x 1944 - 522K
    Sway bar orig.JPG
    2592 x 1944 - 530K
  • Oldfarmer1947gmailcomOldfarmer1947gmailcom Expert Adviser
    edited April 2016 Posts: 1,224
    Thanks for posting the comparison photos.
  • RichardDRichardD Member
    edited April 2016 Posts: 387

    Another showing difference. The cross section area of the HD bar is 2.3 times the area of the stock Hudson bar.

    PIE are square !!!

    top & bottom are HD

    middle is OEM


    SWAY BAR DIFFERENCE (800x428).jpg
    800 x 428 - 215K
  • StillOutThereStillOutThere Expert Adviser
    Posts: 838
    For us non-matheticians,

    What was the OD of the original anti-sway bar?

    And what is the OD of the new HI anti-sway bar?

    Did Hudson offer a Severe Usage sway bar and if so, was it the same ID as this new bar?
  • RichardDRichardD Member
    Posts: 387

    orig: 3/4"
    HD: 1-1/8"
    no info

  • hudsonguyhudsonguy Senior Contributor
    Posts: 783
    Talking to Dale Cooper the other day, and he said that it was odd that Hudson offered a Severe Usage bar for the Jet, but never did offer one for the Stepdowns.
  • 53jetman53jetman Senior Contributor
    Posts: 1,193
    Well, for sure the Jet  could put a heavier bar to good use !   It's rather clunky to go into a tight turn with the standard sway bar.  But then, I guess that most people that bought economy cars up to that time were not in a habit of forcing the car thru a tight corner at speed !
    Jerry Bean  -  Lima, OH,  Home of the M1A1 Abrams Battle Tank - email: JerryBean@mail.com - A 2nd Generation Hud-Nut -  HET Tech Adviser on Hudson Jets 1953 & 1954 & HET Registrar of all Hudson Jets
  • iceblade10iceblade10 Member
    Posts: 198
    How do those these new bars perform?  Is body roll significantly reduced?  Does it compromise the ride quality?  What is the cost for something like this?  Would I need any special tools to install?
    Stephen Repas
    1954 Hornet Coupe - Originally my Grandfather's
    Southeastern PA
  • RL ChiltonRL Chilton Administrator, Moderator
    edited April 2016 Posts: 5,016
    This is what I posted on the other forum:

    Just got back inside from road-testing with the new sway bar. All I can say is, "WOW!". Virtually no body roll even hard into turns. Car floats through flat, true, tracks like a dream. I'm very pleased with the results. If this car had radials, it would be quite a ride. I've got to get another bar for the sedan now.

    Really, if you think about it, along with metal fatigue, I'm sure the stock sway bars get sloppy over time and it's inner tensile strength is (most likely) not what with which they started out life. That would allow considerable more flex, translating to more body roll. Money well spent.

    No special tools needed.  If I remember right, they cost around $250
    Russell http://www.52hornetvert.blogspot.com HETrlchilton52@gmail.com (drop the HET)
  • iceblade10iceblade10 Member
    Posts: 198
    Is this something that can be installed using a floor jack?

    RichardD, where did you get those links and bushings?  Do they simply bolt right into the existing holes?

    This is tempting, because my '54 has crazy body roll...
    Stephen Repas
    1954 Hornet Coupe - Originally my Grandfather's
    Southeastern PA
  • RichardDRichardD Member
    edited April 2016 Posts: 387

    You get the complete set, Powder coated bar, links, poly link and frame bushings, and brackets.  Think I had to file some on the bracket holes but not much. At least that is the way mine came.

    You will NOT have body roll with this item---at least I don't: "ANY"{no 90 degree curves at 100 tho lol}.
    Floor jack will work but you shouldn't have one side higher than the other.

    Believe you can do this by laying on the floor without raising the car.
    Yes, on use existing holes. I did buy new grade 8 bolts for the frame brackets,and chased the threads, & double nutted the links.

    Every stepdown should have this item; perhaps except trailer queens.

    You agree, Russ?

  • hudsn47hudsn47 Senior Contributor
    Posts: 168
    I'm on the next order for the Hornet project. Will eventually get one for the Pacemonster, lol.
  • transportequipaolcomtransportequipaolcom Expert Adviser
    Posts: 16
    How does the heavier sway bar affect the ride quality?
  • dlydonmn7favdlydonmn7fav Expert Adviser
    Posts: 28

    to me the car just feels better more firm, but the real prof is in the corning

        dan

  • iceblade10iceblade10 Member
    Posts: 198
    I think I'm sold... How do I order?
    Stephen Repas
    1954 Hornet Coupe - Originally my Grandfather's
    Southeastern PA
  • KdancyKdancy Senior Contributor
    Posts: 2,075
    http://www.hudsonmotorcarco.com/
    Give Dale a call ----- He carries a full line of Hudson mechanical parts as well.

    53 Super Wasp Coupe
    53 Studebaker Coupe Custom
    64 Champ pickup
    53 Super Wasp Coupe no drivetrain  very good parameter frame and body.
    53 Hornet Coupe od no drivetrain,  haven't decided what to do with this one


    Kerry Wellborn, Florida http://s294.beta.photobucket.com/user/studebaker2/library/
  • RL ChiltonRL Chilton Administrator, Moderator
    Posts: 5,016

    Agreed, Richard.  Better ride, better handling.  Win-win situation.  I love mine.  I want to get another one for my sedan.  
    Russell http://www.52hornetvert.blogspot.com HETrlchilton52@gmail.com (drop the HET)
  • airbrushguyairbrushguy Member
    Posts: 232
    Are these bars the same quality steel as a stock bar would be? Just concerned about safety. Thanks
  • RichardDRichardD Member
    Posts: 387

    Company has been making anti-sway bars for 52 years without a problem. Probably would depend on how fast you drive ??

    >>>  http://www.addco.net/aftermarket/about/

  • iceblade10iceblade10 Member
    Posts: 198
    Airbrushguy, I can't give you any specifics on the metallurgy, but I can tell you that I'm VERY happy with the bar I purchased.

    Some notes:
    -The bar is MUCH thicker and heavier than the stock bar.  It's not even close.  It's powder-coated and seems super-heavy-duty.
    -The supplied bushing brackets and washers didn't quite fit my 1954 Hornet - they were too small.  Simple enough fix, I just had to file out the bolt slots in the brackets, and use different washers.
    -The bar is so thick that it was not going to clear the metal "tray" under the radiator (sorry, I don't know the proper name for this piece).  Again, it's a simple enough fix, as I plan to simply trim the piece a bit.

    With all that being said, I am very glad I got it, as I no longer feel like I'm turning a WWI-era biplane... :-)
    Stephen Repas
    1954 Hornet Coupe - Originally my Grandfather's
    Southeastern PA
  • RichardDRichardD Member
    edited July 2016 Posts: 387

    photo of stock and HD bars {0.75" vs 1.125"}; stock bar in center; HD bars top and bottom.

    click on photo>>


    SWAY BAR DIFFERENCE (800x428).jpg
    800 x 428 - 215K
  • airbrushguyairbrushguy Member
    Posts: 232
    Does he have them in stock? I sent him email but he didn't reply.
  • RichardDRichardD Member
    Posts: 387
    call phone number !!!
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